From petrie%sunscreen.mcc.com@mcc.com Tue Jul 21 10:54:44 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA06311; Tue, 21 Jul 92 10:54:44 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master.0.4) id AA13749; Tue, 21 Jul 92 10:54:43 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other.0.4) id AA03778; Tue, 21 Jul 92 10:54:42 CDT Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 10:54:41 CDT From: Charles Petrie Reply-To: petrie@mcc.com To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Proceedings Publication Date Message-Id: The latest word from MIT Press is that the publication date for the ICEIMT proceedings is October 9th. We'll make more announcements as things change. Charles From petrie%sunscreen.mcc.com@mcc.com Wed Jul 22 09:14:26 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA07290; Wed, 22 Jul 92 09:14:26 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master.0.4) id AA29670; Wed, 22 Jul 92 09:14:10 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other.0.4) id AA04452; Wed, 22 Jul 92 09:14:08 CDT Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 9:14:08 CDT From: Charles Petrie Reply-To: petrie@inti.informatik.uni-kl.de To: all-iceimt@einet.net, einet%sunscreen.mcc.com@mcc.com, ext-einet%sunscreen.mcc.com@mcc.com, einet-wigs%sunscreen.mcc.com@mcc.com Subject: mail address change Message-Id: Until August 28th, please send email to me at the "reply-to" address above. Thanks, Charles From speyer%maverick.mcc.com@mcc.com Wed Jul 22 12:15:55 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA07657; Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:15:55 CDT Received: from maverick.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master.0.4) id AA06108; Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:15:54 CDT Received: by maverick.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other.0.4) id AA27345; Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:15:53 CDT Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:15:53 CDT From: speyer%maverick.mcc.com@mcc.com (Bruce Speyer) Message-Id: <9207221715.AA27345@maverick.mcc.com> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: TEST Testing aliases feature, please delete this message From goranson@charm.isi.edu Thu Jul 30 14:43:26 1992 Return-Path: Received: from charm.isi.edu by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA03193; Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:43:26 CDT Received: by charm.isi.edu (5.65c/4.1.1-4) id ; Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:43:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:43:22 PDT From: Ted Goranson To: All-iceimt@einet.net Cc: Goranson@charm.isi.edu Subject: Setting Up Action-Officer-ICEIMT Message-Id: To ICEIMT friends. This is the first message on the server from your US Action Officer, myself. A previous message on this server contained the report of the "Next Action" Special Interest Group of the conference, reported by Rob Kwikkers. I believe it adequately summarizes the collected recommendations developed over the past year. Here is how I would propose to proceed on my side. MCC has kindly set up a server: "Action-Officers-ICEIMT" . -I suggest that this server be used for messages and information related to the specific issues of next actions. Please use the "All-ICEIMT" (or other, future addresses) for traffic which is not directly related to this mission. -There are a large and diverse number of recommendations. I expect that a substantial amount of reprioritizing will be done on the fly. And I also expect the environment to be very dynamic. (In the US, roles and plans related to EI are still evolving.) Therefore, I solicite your guidance in keeping the vision coherent and appropriate to the opportunities. It carries much greater weight if the EI "vision" for action is jointly shared by the experts in the field. The purpose of this account is to provide the channel for maintaining the plan. -A first request: Please participate. If the email server is not convenient, then email me directly, FAX (804/721-0150), or phone (804/426-6704). (These numbers are both office and home.) As I said, I believe that we can add both value and "policital" weight to the next actions through collaborating. -A second request: Each of us is doing something worthwhile, and naturally we would like to see it highlighted. But please do not use this server for progress reports on your work, arguements for your approach over another, etc. Other media exist to support those dialogs. I hope that with your cooperation this server will be very mission-aware. ++++++++++++ My own energies this summer are being applied toward two of the recommendations from the group: 1. There must be a "Plan". We know that EI is important, but we also know that it (by definition) involves multiple, uncoordinated agents and disciplines. This is both the case in application of EI (in an enterprise) and in action to improve EI (through knowledge and products). To support the latter, we need better definition of who needs to do what and why. Aditionally we need better insighhow these elements cohere with each other and with objectives of the (government and corporate) sponsors. I a working to create a group to makeess in this regard. At this moment, as US Action Officer, I can only address the facets of the plan of interest to US corporations and government agents. Your input will go directly to this group if it comes about. 2. There must be "Pilots". I continue to be a firm believer in the importance of pilots. The term in the present context does not mean experiments or demonstrations. Rather I mean situations in real industrial applications where application of the EI plan (and associated processes) adds value to an enterprise in some way. This model of a pilot presumes that an "EI" requirement exists, and has already been identified and resourced. Action will be taken (by the enterprise) regardless of whether there is a plan or EI agents. What is added is the "plan" and actions by EI agents. The actions, of course may be a diverse mix of processes (R&D, precompetitive forums, metrics and standards services...) the details of which depend on the situation. Funding for the major work of the pilot will come from the enterprise itself, and will be expended (overall) as it independently determines. Funding for the new EI processes which add value and lower risk (the precompetitive elements of the pilot) will represent presumably "new" funding. This scenario assumes that pilot opportunities exist. I will be spending some time looking for these opportunities, and rationalizing them against the "plan". My scope is pilots in the US Defense Industrial Base, those in the US Commercial Industrial Base, and those which involve both US and EC elements. Ideal opportunities will span multiple of these categories. I seek your suggestions on appropriate opportunities. -Ted Goranson From van@hela.iti.org Thu Jul 30 14:45:03 1992 Return-Path: Received: from iti.org (hela.iti.org) by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA03257; Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:45:03 CDT Received: by iti.org (5.65b/IDA-1.2.8) id AA08894; Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:45:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:45:51 -0400 From: "Van D. Parunak" Message-Id: <9207301945.AA08894@iti.org> Apparently-To: all-iceimt@einet.net Dear correspondent, I'm out of the office for two weeks, returning 10 August. It's not clear whether I'll be able to read EMail before then. I'll respond to your message as soon as I can. If you need help with something before then, please contact Joan Roeske, 'jar@iti.org', 313-769-4175, for assistance. Thanks! Van -------- Dr. H. Van Dyke Parunak internet: van@iti.org Scientific Fellow voice: (313) 769-4049 Industrial Technology Institute fax: (313) 769-4064 PO Box 1485, Ann Arbor, MI 48106 From speyer%joy.mcc.com@mcc.com Mon Aug 17 11:09:16 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA13234; Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:09:16 CDT Received: from joy.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master.0.4) id AA15539; Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:09:13 CDT Received: by joy.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other.0.4) id AA15572; Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:09:12 CDT Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:09:12 CDT From: speyer%joy.mcc.com@mcc.com (Bruce Speyer) Message-Id: <9208171609.AA15572@joy.mcc.com> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: OSF Technical Issues OSF is holding a workshop this week to address the technical and business issues of developing a framework for application interoperation. I thought this was interesting enough to forward. -Spy ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From ellis@osf.org Sun Aug 16 11:25:17 1992 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 12:15:27 -0400 From: ellis@osf.org To: gaiawork@osf.org Subject: GAIA issues In preparing for the GAIA workshop, we've put together a list of questions and issues, generated internally and from your responses. At the workshop, we expect many additional issues to be generated. During the workshop, we will address many of these issues. In some cases, answers will emerge; in others, we hope to at least understand how answers will need to be determined by the GAIA team. -- Ellis -------------------------------------------------------- General Issues ============== What are the key objectives of GAIA With respect to the enterprise? With respect to the user? With respect to the developer? With respect to the system vendor? Other? Timeline What is the urgency of GAIA? What factors drive the urgency? What elements of GAIA need to be available when? What are the key events that influence the timing? Minimum requirements/deliverables What are the standards/prerequisites on which GAIA should be based? (pros/cons) What are the key features/characteristics of the solution? Must some or all of the GAIA specification be backed by a definitive, sample or reference implementation? What is the minimum set of deliverables needed to be successful? OSF role vs. role of others What aspects of GAIA is OSF best equipped to deliver? What other players in the industry are in a position to deliver part of the solution? How and where do vendors/ISV's add value? Business and Process Issues =========================== Industry segmentation What are the target platforms: windows, OS, network, other? How are the target users? What are the target industries? Value "allocation" What is the relative value of GAIA components to each constituency? Potential structure/packaging Which components might reside locally, and which remotely? How might these components be licensed? Is this technology appropriate for shrink-wrapping? Process preferences What is the preferred process for implementing the deliverables? What model for technology acquisition is most appropriate? How should OSF handle non-vendor-neutral elements of GAIA, e.g. gateways to alternative frameworks? Underlying Storage and Transport Infrastructure =============================================== Is a standard file system adequate as the storage medium, or must an intrinsically typed persistent object store be used? Is CORBA an appropriate implementation infrastructure? Regardless of the implementation strategy, should IDL be used to specify GAIA service interfaces? Is CORBA functionality adequate, especially with regards to inter-ORB interoperability, and federated naming? What is the relationship of naming in GAIA to existing standards (e.g. X.400 directory services)? What are the pros and cons of using DCE directly for distributed communication and naming, especially in the short term? What are the pros and cons of using X directly for distributed communication, especially in the short term? Can GAIA be used for interactions (e.g. drag&drop, clipboard, primary, and secondary transfer) for which X is now used? If so, how can interoperability best be maintained with future legacy applications that are not GAIA-compliant? Can GAIA be implemented so that the choice of storage and transport layer can be hidden and replaced, with interoperability negotiated across gateways? What is the relationship between the use of CORBA and next generation OO toolkit technology (e.g. FRESCO)? To what degree does multicast messaging need to be provided or accommodated by GAIA? Where and how must security be addressed in GAIA? To what extent does the need to support multimedia affect GAIA and the infrastructure on which it is built? Window System Interoperability ============================== How can GAIA be implemented so it is available in multiple windowing environments? How can GAIA be integrated with other interchange and interoperability frameworks, when both are available on the same machine, or when they interoperate across a network? In an environment in which another interchange and interoperability framework is dominant, can GAIA interfaces act as a layered API on top of them? In an environment in which GAIA is dominant, are special hooks needed to allow other interchange and interoperability frameworks to act as a layered API on top of GAIA? Within mixed window systems, how can windows from one system be embedded in the other system's window? GAIA Services and Interfaces ============================ What services are needed (for example, Format Conversion, Service Registration and Location, Interchange, Printing, Embedding, Dynamic Updating, Linking, Floor Control, Script Recording, etc.)? What role does e-mail support play in GAIA? Which services can be provided in separate server processes? Which services be distributed? Which services can be replicated, and how can they be managed? When multiple services satisfy a need, how can the best service be found, and how scalable is the approach? Format Negotiation & Conversion ------------------------------- How does a information requester describe the information it is requesting (e.g. what portion of the source's state, what it wants to know about that portion, in what encoding it wants to receive the information)? How does an information supplier describe the information it can provide? How do information suppliers and requesters describe the lossiness and accuracy of the information provided or requested? How can format negotiation best support compound encodings? (i.e. with subparts representing separate portions of information, each potentially in its own encoding)? How is the best encoding be determined which matches what a supplier can provide and what a requester wants? How are convertors supported, and under what circumstances are they used? What additional attributes are used to choose convertors (e.g. latency limitations and usage fees)? Can chains of convertors be used, and if so, how is the search for a suitable chain constrained? Should GAIA provide special support to deal with interchange of tagged data where the meaning of the tags are separately defined? Dynamic Updating ---------------- What communication mechanism should be used for delivering updates? How should alternative formats for providing incremental and non-incremental updates be specified? What kinds of mechanisms might be used to support conversion between incremental suppliers and non-incremental consumers, and vice versa? Should bidirectional updating be explicitly supported (beyond separate one way connections), and if so, what mechanisms are available for synchronization or direction control? Can convertors be used to convert dynamic update formats? When a source or destination client is unavailable, should caching be provided, and if so, as the only delayed updating mechanism? If caching is provided, should it be at the source, at the destination, or elsewhere? How should incremental updates be cached? Live Embedding -------------- How do the embedded application and the parent application negotiate the size of the client window -- both initially, and possibly when the embedded applications gains or loses focus? How does keyboard focus (particularly in the case of keyboard navigation) get transferred from the embedded to the parent application and vice versa? How does the embedded application provide a menu to be added to the parent application's menubar? When printing compound documents, how are the rendering formats of embedded data negotiated? In what other ways do the parent and the embedded client need to negotiate? Linking ------- Should the destination of a link be hardcoded directly into the source, or indirectly through a link service? Should links to regions of objects be supported, and if so, how? How are regions updated, and what happens when they change? Are reference links (used to refer to another document or document region which is meant to be embedded or viewed separately), traversal links (used, for hypertext, etc.), and data links (which provide dynamically updated data to be included at the link site) all supported? Are reference links, traversal links, and data links interconvertible, and if so, how? What information about a link needs to be communicated between the source and destination, and how is it communicated? Can the availability of linking information be dependent upon context, and if so, how is it controlled? What interaction between links and version management need to be considered or supported? To what degree should link services support interpretation of SGML Hytime links? Groupware --------- Are GAIA's dynamic update and data linking services an appropriate base for building groupware applications? If not, what should be used instead? What additional services are required (e.g. view coordination, floor control, synchronization, voting, feedback management, consistency management, merge control, etc.)? How can overlaid annotations best be supported? What interaction between groupware services and transactions need to be considered or supported? What consideration needs to be given to support of groupware in situations where interactions have high latency? Multi-Application Scripting --------------------------- What language or language architecture should be used for scripts that can simultaneously interact with multiple applications? Does the language architecture support nested scripts that can be passed to an application's specialized script interpreter? Is there a need for a standard script interpreter that can be linked with an application? What mechanism is used for automatically recording scripts? Are there different mechanisms or architectures for recording (and playing back) semantic actions vs. for user gestures? How does the architecture handle playback of user gestures when the geometry or the view of the application has changed? To what degree can or should a scripting architecture act as a base on top of which other GAIA functionality can be implemented? How can the security concerns of trojan horse scripts can addressed? ----- End Included Message ----- From petrie@mcc.com Tue Sep 1 13:07:48 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA20884; Tue, 1 Sep 92 13:07:48 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_17:05) id AA07464; Tue, 1 Sep 92 13:07:20 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA02165; Tue, 1 Sep 92 13:07:19 CDT Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 13:07:18 CDT From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Cc: miro@atc.boeing.com Subject: "Contexts" and EI Models Message-Id: ---------------------------------------------------------------- This is part of a response to John Sowa from Pat Hayes on a point about inference methods. I have omitted most of the discussion but left in comments about the "contexts" Guha developed for use in dealing with different theories within CYC. Enterprise modeling is faced with the problem of connecting different models: different languages and different domains. This is a hard theoretical problem. These comments suggest that Guha's dissertation may help. If anyone's interested, the MCC report is is ACT-CYC-423-91 and can be requested from Judy Bowman (Bowman@mcc.com). Charles ****************************************************************** ----- Forwarded message # 1: Received: from uklirb.informatik.uni-kl.de by inti.informatik.uni-kl.de id aa05098; 28 Aug 92 18:10 MET DST Received: from venera.isi.edu by uklirb.informatik.uni-kl.de id aa17560; 28 Aug 92 18:07 MET DST Received: from herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu by venera.isi.edu (5.65c/5.65+local-6) id ; Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:03:17 -0700 Received: from krazykat.cs.uiuc.edu by herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu with SMTP (5.64+/IDA-1.2.8) id AA20839; Fri, 28 Aug 92 11:03:15 -0500 Message-Id: <9208281603.AA20839@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:05:41 -0600 To: sowa@watson.ibm.com From: phayes@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Peirce's rules of inference Cc: INTERLINGUA@isi.edu, SRKB@isi.edu, CG@cs.umn.edu ... . . . >I use the word "context" in a very narrow sense -- I mean it as nothing >more than a notation for packaging a collection of graphs. .... A [context] >could contain all the world's knowledge or it could contain just one simple >atom. but a few lines later we get a shadow of the more exotic idea again: > For such systems [CYC-ish], it is important >to analyze the permissible operations for moving information in and >out of various contexts (i.e. packages), reasoning within one of those >packages, and then exporting an answer to another package. But this notation doesn't preserve any structure whatever, as you have just said: it gives complete freedom to move anything in and out of these scope-contexts. There is a claim here: that there is a significant idea of a 'context', which is something which plays a nontrivial role in complex tasks of large-scale knowledge representation. This idea, or rather collection of ideas, is new and now being gradually got clear by McCarthy, Guha and others. ... . . . ----- End of forwarded messages From petrie@mcc.com Thu Sep 3 09:48:59 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA21818; Thu, 3 Sep 92 09:48:59 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_17:05) id AA29716; Thu, 3 Sep 92 09:48:58 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA02834; Thu, 3 Sep 92 09:48:57 CDT Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 09:48:57 CDT From: petrie@mcc.com (Charles Petrie) Message-Id: <9209031448.AA02834@sunscreen.mcc.com> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Cc: Subject: examples Reply-To: ai.petrie@mcc.com Most of us are convinced of the need to tie together systems over a WAN. Logistics, commerce, and design systems from different companies need to be able to reach out and touch each other over a network. In particular, it seems like there is a need for tools that would facilitate building connections between systems. These are not just communications, but some partial integration of systems, in a federated fashion. As I said, most of us are convinced. But where are our examples? Does anyone have any good examples that they could share that show the clear benefits of integrating systems from different companies? Charles From msf@ie.utoronto.ca Thu Sep 3 10:46:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from ie.utoronto.ca by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA21968; Thu, 3 Sep 92 10:46:32 CDT Received: by ie.utoronto.ca (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA09765; Thu, 3 Sep 92 11:48:43 -0400 Received: by kingston.ie.utoronto.ca (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA28068; Thu, 3 Sep 92 11:48:42 -0400 Message-Id: <9209031548.AA28068@kingston.ie.utoronto.ca> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Re: examples In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Sep 92 09:50:00 CDT." <9209031448.AA02834@sunscreen.mcc.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 11:48:41 -0400 From: msf@ie.utoronto.ca X-Mts: smtp A quick response to Charle's question is to look to the Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) world. Rather than tightly connect systems in the sense of being integrated, or even federated, they have chosen the path of having third parties, like Sterling Software, General Electric Information Systems, and IBM, provide "integration" services. These services are primarily translation oriented, where Orders for product are translated from one companies system into a standard format, forwarded into a supplier's emailbox, then translated into the suppliers computer system. Nothing very sophisticated. Another example, that we recently uncovered in Ontario was a service called Supply Line. It was designed for government purchasing agents to find suppliers. It provided an electronic yellow pages, corporate descriptions and the capability to post tenders on a elec bulletin board for suppliers and other purchasing agents to see. It also provide email capabilities. A major reason for the demise of Supply Line was that its information became quickly dated, plus the its charging methods were not profitable. The former points to a major issue of "information fusion" where services in support of electronic markets, such as electronic yellow pages, product catalogues, etc. need to be updated continuously. Again there is an integration/federation issue here. Both of these system are only loosely connected to the using corporations. But they do indicate a growing movement towards integration. How close the nature of the integration required is to federation remains to be seen. - Mark From petrie@mcc.com Thu Sep 3 11:09:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA22089; Thu, 3 Sep 92 11:09:18 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_17:05) id AA01126; Thu, 3 Sep 92 11:09:16 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA02896; Thu, 3 Sep 92 11:09:16 CDT Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 11:09:15 CDT From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Re: examples In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 3 Sep 92 10:49:26 CDT Message-Id: Mark, Good examples, as usual. It makes me wonder if there's even a market for federation services. I had in mind something like subcontractors working together where there is a need to coordinate design and/or logistics. Perhaps that's a very small niche. Perhaps the big market is in simple translation-based "facilitators" and directory services. Charles From msf@ie.utoronto.ca Thu Sep 3 11:28:23 1992 Return-Path: Received: from ie.utoronto.ca by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA22209; Thu, 3 Sep 92 11:28:23 CDT Received: by ie.utoronto.ca (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA19675; Thu, 3 Sep 92 12:30:39 -0400 Received: by kingston.ie.utoronto.ca (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA28110; Thu, 3 Sep 92 12:30:36 -0400 Message-Id: <9209031630.AA28110@kingston.ie.utoronto.ca> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Re: examples In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Sep 92 11:10:20 CDT." Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 12:30:35 -0400 From: msf@ie.utoronto.ca X-Mts: smtp I guess I believe that there is a market for services that more tightly integrate activities among companies, but I do not have any intuitions as to whether that is within 5, 10 or 20 years. Probably 10. The reasons for my lack of intuition are: 1. NASA has been integrating contractors for decades, but the primitiveness of the coordination is apalling. Even the distribution of an up-to-date catalogue of standard parts, which is conceptually simple, has been problematic. This points to 20 years. 2. On the other hand, cutting edge companies would have us believe that they are tightly linked with the suppliers, subcontractors, etc. This points to 5 years. But when I look closely, all is not as integrated as one would believe. They may have EDI which is fine for JIT/factory floor ordering, but at the design level, the nature of the coordination may be alot more loose. The bottom line is that for every example, there is a counter example. There are some who are ready for federation today, and others for whom 20 years may be too soon. The trick is to rout out the companies who have a time frame you both are comfortable with! Mark S. Fox Professor of Industrial Eng., Computer Sc. and Management Sc. NSERC Industrial Research Chair in Enterprise Integration Department of Industrial Engineering University of Toronto 4 Taddle Creek Road Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A4 office: 416-978-6823 fax: 416-971-1373 email: msf@ie.utoronto.ca From van@hela.iti.org Fri Sep 4 16:30:37 1992 Return-Path: Received: from iti.org (hela.iti.org) by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA22930; Fri, 4 Sep 92 16:30:37 CDT Received: by iti.org (5.65b/IDA-1.2.8) id AA25055; Fri, 4 Sep 92 17:31:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 17:31:45 -0400 From: "Van D. Parunak" Message-Id: <9209042131.AA25055@iti.org> To: ei++@hela.iti.org, all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: "Synthetic Environment Technology" Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v3.04. A recent CBD posting uses this term to discuss a set of concepts that overlap heavily with what we've been calling "Enterprise Integration," but without specific definition. I've personally never heard the expression before. Does anyone have a definition and/or pointers to publications that use it? Thanks Van --------------------- Dr. H. Van Dyke Parunak internet: van@iti.org Scientific Fellow voice: (313) 769-4049 Industrial Technology Institute fax: (313) 769-4064 PO Box 1485, Ann Arbor, MI 48106 From speyer@mcc.com Thu Sep 10 09:15:36 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA24915; Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:15:36 CDT Received: from joy.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_17:05) id AA02960; Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:15:34 CDT Received: by joy.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA12613; Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:15:33 CDT Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:15:33 CDT From: speyer@mcc.com (Bruce Speyer) Message-Id: <9209101415.AA12613@joy.mcc.com> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Application Integration Workshop This may be of interest to a few of you. Note that the registration cutoff is September 18th. -Spy ----- Begin Included Message ----- Received: from MCIMAIL.COM by gemini.arc.nasa.gov (5.65b/1.3) with SMTP; Wed, 9 Sep 92 11:49:50 -0700 Received: from mcimail.com by MCIGATEWAY.MCIMail.com id ad21994; 9 Sep 92 18:43 GMT Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 18:46 GMT From: Bob Hodges To: Jerry Winkler Subject: TEXAS INSTRUMENTS' Electronic Mail message # 1260319 Message-Id: <74920909184647/0004006329D40X4@mcimail.com> To Jerry Winkler >From Bob Hodges 4937603@MciMail.com This message and the accompanying Call for Participation went out on Friday, September 4. Workshop on Application Integration Architectures November 16--20, 1992 This and the following Email are an invitation for you and the organization you represent (see below) to participate in a by-invitation workshop on application integration architectures (frameworks, repositories, IPSEs, etc.). Many standards groups and industry consortia are developing integration architectures independently without clear understanding of what related groups are doing. We are putting together a workshop with the goal of making progress in converging these efforts or at least improving understanding of their relative contributions and scopes. To be effective, the workshop needs participation from KEY INDIVIDUALS in each of several groups (see draft attendee list below). A Call For Participation (the accompanying Email message) is included to outline the proposed structure for such a workshop. We are asking you (or key people associated with your effort) to participate in this workshop. Attendance is limited. To have a productive working group, we would like to limit participation to 2-3 persons from each organization. We understand that individual attendees cannot officially speak for organizations they informally represent at the workshop and do not expect attendees to be sanctioned as formal delegations. However, we still feel this forum will be very valuable in helping the participants formulate a strategy and roadmap to help us all work together toward a shared goal. A Workshop Report will result that can be made available to all attending groups. We have already verified the sponsorship of key groups (OMG, and X/Open) and their intent to participate. With the support of these organizations we hope that members of several other groups will be encouraged to attend and participate. You can help further this effort by planning to attend, and by forwarding this call to a few key contributors in your organization that could contribute to the workshop. We will rely on each organization to self-select two to three attendees. We request your timely feedback, indicating your interest in attending, no later than *** September 18 1992 *** by Email, letter, or phone. Include with the early response your name, address, voice phone, fax phone, Email, and group(s) represented. Regards, Bob Hodges Craig Thompson (TI; X3H4.1) (TI; OMG, X3H7, ODMG, DARPA, OODBTG) 214-575-3442 214-995-0347 4937603@mcimail.com thompson@csc.ti.com initial TO list: ================ TO Richard Soley OMG (VP Tech) Richard_Soley@omg.org Geoff Lewis OMG/Sunsoft Geoffrey.Lewis@Eng.Sun.Com John Schwartz OMG/Mentor john_schwartz@omg.org Bruce Kin Huie OSF bhuie@osf.org Jon Gossels OSF jon_gossels@omg.org John Morris OSF john_morris@omg.org Derek Kaufman X/Open (VP Tech) dck@xopusw.com Joe Bergman X/Open jbergman@xopen.co.uk Mike Lambert X/Open mike_lambert@omg.org Larry Brown Unix International larry_brown@omb.org Elizabeth Fong NIST, X3H7 fong@ecf.ncsl.nist.gov William Wong NIST wong@swe.ncsl.nist.gov Ian Thomas ECMA TC33 (PCTE) kissman@sda.com Christian Brenneau ECMA TC33 (PCTE) kissman@sda.com Mike Imber EIA/CDIF 100031.700@compuserve.com Drew Wade CFI, ODMG drew@objy.com Rick Cattell ODMG rcattell@eng.sun.com Mary Loomis ODMG mloomis@osc.com Cita Furlani PDES/STEP furlani.@cme.nist.gov K.C. Morriss PDES/STEP kc@cme.nist.gov Gio Wiederhold DARPA SISTO gio@darpa.mil Erik Mettala DARPA SISTO mettala@darpa.mil Don Deutsch X3H2 (chair) 301-340-4580, FAX 301-340-4151 Len Gallagher X3H2 (IR) 301-975-3251 David Beech X3H2 dbeech@us.oracle.com Jerry Winkler X3H4 (chair) jwinkler@nasamail.nasa.gov Mark Jones X3H4 jonesm@atc.boeing.com Bob Hodges X3H4.1 (chair) 4937603@mcimail.com John Bestwick X3H4.2 (chair) jbestwic@oracle.com Roger Burkhardt X3H4 roger@ci.deere.com Hal Pierson X3H6 (chair) pierson@software.org Cathy Chapman X3H6 chapman@tle.enet.dec.com Bill Kent X3H7 (chair) kent@hplwk.hpl.hp.com Craig Thompson X3H7,OMG,ODMG thompson@csc.ti.com Ed Stull X3T3 ODP (chair) 70026.647@CompuServ.COM Dave Judson CALS IIWG 513-255-7371 Larry Johnson CALS IIWG larry.johnson@dseg.ti.com J. J. Cinecoe IEEE Posix TROI /c=us/a=attmail/p=Boeing_Seattl e/o=Boeing/ou=computer_services /s=cinecoe/g=jj Bruce Murril ISO/NMF bruce_murrill@omg.org Forwarded message: Posted: Wed, Sep 9, 1992 12:02 PM PDT Msg: KJJC-3032-7189 From: POSTMAN To: jwinkler Subj: [From: ] Application Integration Architectures Workshop FYI Internet mail from the Ames NASAmail Gateway follows: Send the following line as the first line of the text of your reply: To: Contact admin/arc (Lilly Compton) for details. Received: from MCIMAIL.COM by gemini.arc.nasa.gov (5.65b/1.3) with SMTP; Wed, 9 Sep 92 11:49:58 -0700 Received: from mcimail.com by MCIGATEWAY.MCIMail.com id ai21994; 9 Sep 92 18:43 GMT Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 18:48 GMT From: Bob Hodges To: Jerry Winkler Subject: Application Integration Architectures Workshop FYI Message-Id: <03920909184830/0004006329D40X4@mcimail.com> ----------------------------- Application message id: TI.msg.1260347 Grade of Delivery: Normal ----------------------------- To Jerry Winkler >From Bob Hodges 4937603@MciMail.com Re Application Integration Architectures Workshop FYI Call for Participation Workshop on Application Integration Architectures November 16--20, 1992 Dallas, Texas Background: In the last several years, many organizations, including both national and international standards bodies and industrial consortia, have developed architectures for application integration (frameworks, repositories, IPSEs). Some of these efforts include Object Management Group, Open System Foundation, X/Open, Portable Common Tools Environment, CAD Framework Initiative, PDES/STEP SDAI, EIA/CDIF, DARPA STARS, ECMA/NIST Reference Model for Frameworks of Software Engineering Environments, ODMG, X3 OODB Task Group, ANSI X3T3 ODP, ANSI X3H2 SQL, ANSI X3H4 IRDS, ANSI X3H6 CASE Integration Models, and ANSI X3H7 Object Information Management. Many of these efforts are based on or moving toward an object model as the foundation for data and service integration. To deal with the open-ended requirements of application integration, a services architecture can provide a means of registering services implemented by a variety of facilities. Inheritance maximizes the potential for sharing and reuse of basic core services. Diverse services can then be obtained using a generic services interface. The interface acts as a neutral intermediary that shields service-requesting applications from irrelevant or unnecessary details of service-providing implementations. The interface provides the mechanism for offering a wide range of services using common request syntax and semantics. Several important industry groups are planning to participate in the workshop. OMG, and X/Open will jointly sponsor the workshop as a neutral venue where diverse perspectives can be aired and possibly brought into better alignment. Individuals actively supporting several key consortia and standards committees have expressed interest in attending. Purpose of the Workshop: There is a growing need to converge and align the many application integration architecture efforts. The objective of this 5-day workshop is to construct a plan for how the participating organizations can cooperate to realize the shared vision of a common industry-wide integration architecture. This objective includes a focus on the potential for a generic services interface and API that would allow the services of different implementations to be provided in a consistent fashion. Expected outcomes of the workshop include: A taxonomy of services A directory of groups working on a service Requirements for a common interface and API for providing services Strategy for cooperative work Attendee Information: The goal of the workshop will best be achieved if attendance is limited to those directly involved in technical development of the various efforts. Two to three invitations for each effort are available. Workshop Organization: The workshop will begin with a 1-day plenary session covering the workshop objectives. A spokesperson for each group will be requested to make a 30 minutes plenary presentation to cover mission statement, scope, constituency, history, liaison to other groups, technical progress and plans. The technical presentations should include a system architecture and descriptions of system components (or services). It should also list references to each group's standing documents. During the remainder of the workshop, there will be parallel breakout sessions each focusing on specific topics. These may include: mission/goal statements (e.g., identify similarities, differences, ...) defining terms (e.g., open, portable, interoperable, service, etc.) systems architecture comparison API, services interface and request brokering data/object models how repository and framework efforts relate template for (object) services (e.g., requirements, reference model, generic interface specification, programming language bindings, relevant standards, ...) categorization of (object) services (who's doing what) focus on a specific object service (e.g., change management, ...) to provide critical comment from multiple points of view. how different are domain-specific (CAD, CASE, ...) frameworks convergence plan formulation (actions, benefits, risks) Workshop Preparation: Each workshop attendee must represent (informally- --no commitments are required as part of the workshop) one or more standards groups, consortia, or multi-organization (including government) projects. To participate, individuals need to provide beforehand (1) one reference copy of current source documentation on their group's effort (one copy from each group represented), (2) an architecture diagram (or other description of the system), (3) recommendations for potential breakout sessions (paragraph on each), (4) copy of a presentation on their group's activity if they are the group's spokesperson (see above), and (5) a Position Paper (2--5 pages). Position papers may focus on approaches to converging work in this area, evaluation of areas where consensus that could lead to standards is high, or on some (proposed) breakout session topic. Benefits of Participation: The benefits of this workshop are expected to be to the individual groups, measured in terms of information and action. Participants should come away with a much clearer understanding of how their organization can contribute to a major industrial move toward open application integration architectures and how to leverage other groups' efforts. In addition, a concrete action plan should result for converging some efforts or closing gaps. A Workshop Report, assembled during and immediately following the workshop by the participants (with help from volunteers from ANSI X3H4.1 IRDS System Architecture and Integration), will capture inputs from plenary and breakout sessions. Submission: Persons wishing to attend this workshop should provide an early response of your intent by *** September 18, 1992 ***. Include with the early response your name, address, voice phone, fax phone, e-mail, and group(s) represented. Attendees should then submit workshop materials (described above) by *** October 2, 1992 *** to the workshop coordinators listed below. Notification of acceptance will be sent by *** 16 October 1992 ***. Bob Hodges Craig Thompson Texas Instruments Inc. Texas Instruments Inc. 6550 Chase Oaks Blvd. 13510 N. Central Expressway PO Box 869305, MS 8482 PO Box 655474, MS 238 Dallas, TX 75023 Dallas, TX 75265 e-mail: 4937603@mcimail.com e-mail: thompson@csc.ti.com 214-575-3442 214-995-0347 Registration: (if accepted): The workshop will begin at 9 a.m. on Monday, November 16 and end at noon on Friday, November 20. A block of rooms and meeting facilities are reserved at the Dallas Parkway Hilton (1-800-356-3924). The room rate is $74 government and corporate, single/double. Mention the "Application Integration Architectures Workshop" when registering to get this room rate. The workshop fee will be approximately $85 to cover workshop expenses, with payment at the door by check (no credit cards). Transportation to the hotel from DFW Airport: taxi, Supershuttle. The hotel offers complimentary shuttle service to nearby shopping and restaurant locations. There will be a reception for workshop participants Sunday night before the workshop. ----- End Included Message ----- From petrie@mcc.com Thu Sep 10 09:33:08 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA25034; Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:33:08 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_17:05) id AA03081; Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:33:07 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA05021; Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:33:06 CDT Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 9:33:05 CDT From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Re: Application Integration Workshop In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:19:04 CDT Message-Id: Thanks Bruce, The invitation is indeed interesting. The workshop doesn't though. I've had enough. cp From petrie@mcc.com Thu Sep 10 10:56:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA25173; Thu, 10 Sep 92 10:56:32 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_17:05) id AA04797; Thu, 10 Sep 92 10:56:31 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA05115; Thu, 10 Sep 92 10:56:30 CDT Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 10:56:29 CDT From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: leaving Message-Id: I apologize for the last message. It was a personal reply to Bruce, but the default on this mailing list is currently "reply all". Bruce is working to change this feature to something more intuitive. As that message may have suggested, I am leaving MCC. Roy has been kind enough to let me continue at this address for a while. I will let you know when my email address changes. Charles From webster@mcc.com Fri Sep 11 15:00:02 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA25651; Fri, 11 Sep 92 15:00:02 CDT Received: from watt.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_17:05) id AA20774; Fri, 11 Sep 92 15:00:00 CDT Received: by watt.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA07158; Fri, 11 Sep 92 14:59:59 CDT Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 14:59:59 CDT From: webster@mcc.com (Dallas Webster) Message-Id: <9209111959.AA07158@watt.mcc.com> To: all-iceimt@einet.net In-Reply-To: Charles Petrie's message of Thu, 3 Sep 92 09:51:31 CDT <9209031448.AA02834@sunscreen.mcc.com> Subject: examples I'd been called away from my desk for a while and finally got caught up on my email. This is a belated contribution to the discussion, but I thought I should point out the article "Corporate Startegies for Information Technology: A Resource-Based approach" by Eric Clemons in the IEEE Computer, Nov. 1991. Since I'm still trying to get caught up on things other than email, I can only summarize my recollections and see if that stimulates interest in getting further details. The article primarily presented the case for sharing information between corporations, and had a number of examples to support his thesis, or portions thereof. The examples were both positive, directly supporting his case, or negative, arguing against an alternative. To whet your interest, I'll note that some of the examples were Rosenbluth Travel, Provident National Bank, The Big Bang, McKesson Drug, Barclays de Zoete World Trade, and The New York Cash Exchange. Dallas P.S.: This discussion, though interesting and useful, seems to misuse the all-iceimt mailing list as I understand it. My own contribution is also "guilty" in this regard. So I'm sending a note to action-officers-iceimt indicating preliminary need for a discussio-oriented mailing list. Let them know if you feel such a need as well. From speyer@mcc.com Tue Oct 6 14:01:33 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA08329; Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:01:33 CDT Received: from joy.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_x) id AA02820; Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:01:32 CDT Received: by joy.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA11674; Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:01:31 CDT Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:01:31 CDT From: speyer@mcc.com (Bruce Speyer) Message-Id: <9210061901.AA11674@joy.mcc.com> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: ICEIMT To: ICEIMT subscribers, Thank you for subscribing to the all-iceimt@einet.net redistribution list. (Mack, resend your subscription as my earlier message indicated.) ADMINISTRATION: A number of you received error messages because the listserv program tries to process everything in the message including your electronic signature. Please just ignore those message. We've concluded that our experiment with totally automated mail servers have shown that they can be confusing and could use further refinements that we aren't able to do now. Therefore, I will act as moderator and administrator of the ICEIMT electronic redistribution services on EINet. We'll continue to use the listserv application but, you can directly contact me for assistance unless you prefer to use listserv. (For further information on the listserv send the message `help' to iceimt@einet.net) DISCUSSION: I'm working on a whitepaper now (5-6 pages) which attempts to identify the unique value that the ICEIMT provides and the audience that it has/would motivate to work together. I plan on running this document pass this list once it has been reviewed by the US/EC collaboration action officers. My desire is that this document would then be widely distributed after your review to those who want to better understand what is the value of the ICEIMT in regards to: participants, reviewers, customers, and other integration activities. If this whitepaper is going to be effective, it needs to be representative of the community working on EI technical issues and (pragmattic) approaches. If you are interested in participating in an ad-hoc email working group that will discuss and develop the whitepaper please send electronic mail to speyer@mcc.com. If you can not participate at this time there will be another chance for discussion and review once the first draft is completed. Regards, Bruce K. Speyer MCC Enterprise Integration Program EMail: speyer@mcc.com 3500 West Balcones Center Drive Voice: 512/338-3668 Austin, TX. 78759-6509 Fax: 512/338-3897 From van@hela.iti.org Tue Oct 6 14:04:24 1992 Return-Path: Received: from iti.org (hela.iti.org) by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA08448; Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:04:24 CDT Received: by iti.org (5.65b/IDA-1.2.8) id AA22309; Tue, 6 Oct 92 15:05:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 15:05:54 -0400 From: "Van D. Parunak" Message-Id: <9210061905.AA22309@iti.org> Apparently-To: all-iceimt@einet.net Dear correspondent, I'm out of the office until about 8 October, and don't plan to read Email before then. If you need help with something earlier than that, please contact Joan Roeske, 'jar@iti.org', 313-769-4175, or Bernie Gilbertson, 'bernie@iti.org', 313-769-4710, for assistance. Thanks! Van -------- Dr. H. Van Dyke Parunak internet: van@iti.org Scientific Fellow voice: (313) 769-4049 Industrial Technology Institute fax: (313) 769-4064 PO Box 1485, Ann Arbor, MI 48106 From petrie@mcc.com Tue Oct 6 14:38:01 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA08672; Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:38:01 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_x) id AA03255; Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:38:00 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA03828; Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:37:59 CDT Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:37:58 CDT From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:04:15 CDT Subject: Replying to a Listserver Message-Id: If you reply to Bruce's message, before you send your reply, please check the "to:" address. Replying to listservers is tricky. You may think you are replying only to Bruce and in fact replying to everyone. Sigh. cp From petrie@mcc.com Tue Oct 20 11:32:53 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA17776; Tue, 20 Oct 92 11:32:53 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_x) id AA05090; Tue, 20 Oct 92 11:32:52 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA05996; Tue, 20 Oct 92 11:01:16 CDT Date: Tue, 20 Oct 92 11:01:15 CDT From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Proceedings are Available Message-Id: Dear ICEIMT Participants: The proceedings have been published. They look great. MIT Press did a fine job. The book is: "Enterprise Integration Modeling: Proceedings of the First International Conference" ISBN 0-262-66080-6, Petrie, ed., The MIT Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts, 1992 The book appears as the fourth volume of MIT Press' "Scientific and Engineering Computation" series, edited by Januz Kowalik. It is published as a standard-sized, paper-back technical book. For ordering information, please contact Robert Prior The MIT Press 55 Hayward Street Cambridge, MA 02142 617/253-1584 prior@mitvma.mit.edu Charles From van@hela.iti.org Tue Oct 20 11:36:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from iti.org (hela.iti.org) by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA17909; Tue, 20 Oct 92 11:36:10 CDT Received: by iti.org (5.65b/IDA-1.2.8) id AA19937; Tue, 20 Oct 92 12:37:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 92 12:37:41 -0400 From: "Van D. Parunak" Message-Id: <9210201637.AA19937@iti.org> Apparently-To: all-iceimt@einet.net Dear correspondent, I'm out of the office until Monday 26 October, and don't plan to read Email before then. If you need help with something earlier than that, please contact Joan Roeske, 'jar@iti.org', 313-769-4175, for assistance. Thanks! Van -------- Dr. H. Van Dyke Parunak internet: van@iti.org Scientific Fellow voice: (313) 769-4049 Industrial Technology Institute fax: (313) 769-4064 PO Box 1485, Ann Arbor, MI 48106 From petrie@mcc.com Thu Oct 22 16:44:59 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA02206; Thu, 22 Oct 92 16:44:59 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_x) id AA04377; Thu, 22 Oct 92 16:44:56 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA07194; Thu, 22 Oct 92 16:44:54 CDT Date: Thu, 22 Oct 92 16:44:53 CDT From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Cc: bethl@mit.edu Subject: How to order ICEIMT proceedings Message-Id: Send a message to Beth LaFortune Gies (bethl@mit.edu). If you are a contributor, she will give you a 30% discount. She will be sending out flyers the first week in November with more detailed information. If you are in a hurry, send a message to her this week, because she's out next week. Charles From winner@ida.org Fri Oct 23 13:20:53 1992 Return-Path: Received: from ida.org (CS.IDA.ORG) by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA02945; Fri, 23 Oct 92 13:20:53 CDT Received: from omni.ida.org by ida.org (4.1/SMI-DDN) id AA29503; Fri, 23 Oct 92 14:20:47 EDT Received: from csed-59.noname by omni.ida.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11012; Fri, 23 Oct 92 14:20:46 EDT Received: by csed-59.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17032; Fri, 23 Oct 92 14:20:47 EDT Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 14:20:47 EDT From: winner@ida.org (Bob Winner) Message-Id: <9210231820.AA17032@csed-59.noname> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Re: How to order ICEIMT proceedings I was a contributor to the ICEIMT meeting at Hilton Head. I gave the talk that followed DAve Hill's on the first day. ...bob winner From winner@ida.org Fri Oct 23 13:22:45 1992 Return-Path: Received: from ida.org (CS.IDA.ORG) by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA03030; Fri, 23 Oct 92 13:22:45 CDT Received: from omni.ida.org by ida.org (4.1/SMI-DDN) id AA29520; Fri, 23 Oct 92 14:22:39 EDT Received: from csed-59.noname by omni.ida.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11046; Fri, 23 Oct 92 14:22:38 EDT Received: by csed-59.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17043; Fri, 23 Oct 92 14:22:38 EDT Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 14:22:38 EDT From: winner@ida.org (Bob Winner) Message-Id: <9210231822.AA17043@csed-59.noname> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Re: How to order ICEIMT proceedings Cc: about@ida.org, sorry@ida.org, that@ida.org Sorry about previous message. Replied instead of composing. ...bob From petrie@mcc.com Fri Oct 23 15:43:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA03335; Fri, 23 Oct 92 15:43:32 CDT Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_x) id AA15862; Fri, 23 Oct 92 15:43:30 CDT Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA07612; Fri, 23 Oct 92 15:43:29 CDT Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 15:43:28 CDT From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Cc: speyer%sunscreen.mcc.com@mcc.com Subject: Re: How to order ICEIMT proceedings In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 23 Oct 92 13:24:01 CDT Message-Id: Bob, I have passed on your message to MIT Press confirming that you did indeed give a talk. I don't know if this is their meaning of "contributor". We'll see what they do. Charles From speyer@mcc.com Fri Oct 23 16:07:44 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA03507; Fri, 23 Oct 92 16:07:44 CDT Received: from joy.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_x) id AA16125; Fri, 23 Oct 92 16:07:40 CDT Received: by joy.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA03794; Fri, 23 Oct 92 16:07:40 CDT Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 16:07:40 CDT From: speyer@mcc.com (Bruce Speyer) Message-Id: <9210232107.AA03794@joy.mcc.com> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: ICEIMT Proceedings Status Cc: PRIOR@mitvma.mit.edu, bethl@mit.edu The MIT Press publisher, Bob Prior kindly asks that we hold off requests for the proceedings until they have their publicity and order departments ready to process them. This should be during the week of November 1st. At that time there will be order information and forms, Bob is *not* the right person to send orders to. MIT Press has graciously agreed to extend the ICEIMT contributors discount to all persons on the ICEIMT final participants roster (Appendix B of the proceedings) which includes everybody who attended either a workshop, or the summary conference, and not just the attributed paper authors. That way, all of you who gave presentations and worked on the unattributed group reports are included too. MIT Press will be mailing each contributor a special order form that will allow you to buy the proceedings at 30% off the list price week after next. Please do not reply to the all-iceimt@einet.net list on this subject. There have already been too many messages on this topic. Rather, followup directly with Charles (petrie@mcc.com) or to me (speyer@mcc.com). When the MIT Press electronic announcement of the ICEIMT proceedings becomes available we'll forward it to this list. Regards, Bruce K. Speyer MCC Enterprise Integration Program EMail: speyer@mcc.com 3500 West Balcones Center Drive Voice: 512/338-3668 Austin, TX. 78759-6509 Fax: 512/338-3897 From petrie@mcc.com Mon Oct 26 08:52:51 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA05166; Mon, 26 Oct 92 08:52:51 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_x) id AA10732; Mon, 26 Oct 92 08:52:50 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA08128; Mon, 26 Oct 92 08:52:50 CST Date: Mon, 26 Oct 92 8:52:49 CST From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Re: ICEIMT Proceedings Status In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 23 Oct 92 16:11:32 CDT Message-Id: So why didn't MIT Press have their publicity and order departments ready to respond already? From petrie@mcc.com Fri Oct 30 11:24:47 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA08403; Fri, 30 Oct 92 11:24:47 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_x) id AA09285; Fri, 30 Oct 92 11:24:46 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA10615; Fri, 30 Oct 92 11:24:45 CST Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 11:24:44 CST From: Charles Petrie To: srkb-list@isi.edu Subject: New Paper Available Cc: all-iceimt@einet.net Message-Id: The Redux' Server Redux' is a subset of the full REDUX model The latter performs problem solving. In contrast Redux' does not and acts only as a decision maintenance server. It takes objects of types defined in an ontology of decision components and maintains dependencies between them. Redux' is domain-independent. The dependency relationships are maintained on the basis of proposition type and not content, except for some string matching. Redux' servers are proposed as a mechanism for federating heterogeneous design agents by encapsulating their design decisions within a simple model and providing coordination services, especially for design revision. This proposal is described within the context of the SHADE and PACT projects. This paper is available in PostScript via anonymous ftp at ftp.einet.net: /iceimt/papers/prime.ps There is also a compressed version, prime.ps.Z, that should be retrieved in binary mode. As usual, this PostScript probably will not work with Macs, but it does lpr fine with Sparc and Imagen printers. cp From petrie@mcc.com Mon Nov 16 14:51:37 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA03436; Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:51:37 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_920825_x) id AA08362; Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:51:35 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA04523; Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:51:33 CST Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:51:32 CST From: Charles Petrie To: ext-einet%sunscreen.mcc.com@mcc.com, all-iceimt@einet.net Cc: roy%sunscreen.mcc.com@mcc.com Subject: Electronic Signatures and Privacy Message-Id: Scientific American, August 1992 : "Achieving Electronic Privacy", beginning on page 97, describes a system of electronic signatures that preserves the privacy of the users. This introductory article is informative and well-written by an Amsterdam researcher and consultant, David Chaum. cp PS "Air Trains" starting on page 103 is an interesting description of the state of maglevs in the US. "Hopscotch Policy" starting on page 116 describes Senator Bingaman's attempts to convert DARPA to NARPA. From gasser@morue.usc.edu Mon Nov 16 15:14:29 1992 Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA03641; Mon, 16 Nov 92 15:14:29 CST Received: from morue.usc.edu by usc.edu (5.64+/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+2.3) id AA07438; Mon, 16 Nov 92 13:14:25 PST Received: by morue.usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-ucs+1.1) id AA03473; Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:53:14 PST Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:53:14 PST From: gasser@morue.usc.edu (Les Gasser) Message-Id: <9211162053.AA03473@morue.usc.edu> Apparently-To: all-iceimt@einet.net 6 November 1992 Dear Correspondent: I am away frommy office until 16 November. I will read your mail and follow up on my return. In an emergency you can contact me via Bill Wood (213.740.8771). -- Les Computational Organization Design Lab Institute of Safety and Systems Management USC Los Angeles, CA 90089-0021 USA Voice: 213.740.4046 Fax: 213.740.8771 Alternate Fax: 213.740.5943 Internet: gasser@usc.edu From petrie@mcc.com Tue Nov 24 10:49:30 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA10411; Tue, 24 Nov 92 10:49:30 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA05334; Tue, 24 Nov 92 10:49:29 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA07052; Tue, 24 Nov 92 10:49:29 CST Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 10:49:28 CST From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: index Message-Id: index iceimt.papers From petrie@mcc.com Fri Nov 27 15:40:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA13561; Fri, 27 Nov 92 15:40:17 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA01400; Fri, 27 Nov 92 14:34:23 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA08853; Fri, 27 Nov 92 14:34:22 CST Date: Fri, 27 Nov 92 14:34:21 CST From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Cc: ext-ei@mcc.com Subject: Workshop Notes Available Message-Id: For the first eight (8) callers, a copy of Workshop Notes AAAI-92 Workshop Program AI in Enterprise Integration July 12-16, 1992 San Jose, California Please send your full mail address. This is not a citable publication and distribution was originally limited to the participants, though several of the papers were included in the ICEIMT proceedings. Supplies are very limited. I really do have only eight extras left. Charles From petrie@mcc.com Wed Dec 2 04:04:14 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA16338; Wed, 2 Dec 92 04:04:14 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA25654; Tue, 1 Dec 92 11:36:16 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA10327; Tue, 1 Dec 92 11:36:15 CST Date: Tue, 1 Dec 92 11:36:14 CST From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Cc: ext-ei@mcc.com Subject: Workshop Proceedings All Gone Message-Id: The eight available copies went very fast. (I'm bothering you with a broadcast because of continuing responses to the original message.) Charles From van@hela.iti.org Wed Dec 2 04:08:01 1992 Return-Path: Received: from iti.org (hela.iti.org) by einet (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA16474; Wed, 2 Dec 92 04:08:01 CST Received: by iti.org (5.65b/IDA-1.2.8) id AA03388; Wed, 2 Dec 92 05:09:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 92 05:09:43 -0500 From: "Van D. Parunak" Message-Id: <9212021009.AA03388@iti.org> Precedence: bulk Apparently-To: all-iceimt@einet.net Dear correspondent, I'm out of the office until Monday 7 Dec, and may not be able to read Email before then. If you need help with something earlier than that, please contact Joan Roeske, 'jar@iti.org', 313-769-4175, for assistance, or leave a message on my voicemail. Thanks! Van -------- Dr. H. Van Dyke Parunak internet: van@iti.org Scientific Fellow voice: (313) 769-4049 Industrial Technology Institute fax: (313) 769-4064 PO Box 1485, Ann Arbor, MI 48106 From mklein@atc.boeing.com Mon Dec 7 17:07:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from atc.boeing.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA20284; Mon, 7 Dec 92 17:07:09 CST Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA29122; Mon, 7 Dec 92 15:04:31 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 15:04:31 -0800 Message-Id: <9212072304.AA29122@atc.boeing.com> Sender: mklein@bcsaic.boeing.com To: all-iceimt@einet.net From: mklein@atc.boeing.com Subject: CFP for IJCAI-93 Conflict Management Workshop Call For Papers =============== IJCAI-93 Workshop on Computational Models of Conflict Management in Cooperative Problem Solving Description ----------- A central aspect of cooperative problem solving by groups is the avoidance, detection and resolution of conflicts among the participants. This is of great theoretical interest in such research areas as distributed artificial intelligence. It is also of considerable practical importance because of the key role conflict management plays in cooperative problem solving e.g. in concurrent engineering. Work on conflict management has occurred in a variety of settings including concurrent engineering, multi-agent planning & design, AI and Law, distributed AI (including game theory), GDSS (group decision support systems), CSCW (computer-supported cooperative work), software engineering, sociology, organizational science, public policy and international relations. This work thus includes theoretical groundwork, empirical studies and implemented conflict management systems for human and computational agents. Despite wide-spread interest, however, there have been few opportunities for researchers addressing these issues in different areas to explore commonalities and benefit from the differing insights each have achieved. The goal of this workshop is to facilitate this kind of cross-fertilization process. The workshop will focus on several key themes: * What lessons do empirical studies of conflict management have to offer for the development of computational models? * What are the current theoretical underpinnings for conflict management, and how can they be applied to practical problems? * How can computers support group conflict management with both human and computational participants? What are the benefits and challenges of the different approaches? * What aspects of conflict management are generic and what are domain-specific? Can the same techniques work with human and computational participants? * How do computational models of conflict management fare in real-world social and organisational settings? Through exploring such themes it is hoped the participants will have a better idea about how they can use related work from other areas, and can begin to outline a single general theory of conflict management that works across multiple domains. Workshop Information -------------------- This single-day workshop is part of the Workshop Program for IJCAI-93 (the International Joint Conference on Artificial Intelligence) which is to be held in Chambery, France between August 29 - September 3, 1993. The exact workshop date has not been decided yet and will be announced when it becomes available. The workshop will consist of four moderated 75 minute sessions, each made up of: * a brief (5-10 minute) moderators' overview of common themes and key issues * four 10 minute presentations (including questions): presenters will be asked to follow a results-oriented format and to address key issues identified by the moderators. * a discussion panel wherein presenters field questions from the audience and each other. This should be focused on shared issues rather than further explanation of the participant's individual work. Workshop participants will also be invited to display posters describing their work. Please note that each attendee must have registered for the main conference and is required to pay an additional 300 FF (about $60 US) fee for the workshop. IJCAI has offered to exempt the workshop fee for one student attendee if he or she agrees to be in charge of taking notes for the whole day. Please let me know if you are interested. Submissions ----------- Participation is by invitation only, and will be limited to approximately 35 people of which 16 will be presenters. Those who wish to attend the workshop should submit four copies of a research abstract no more than 5 pages long focusing on the main contribution of their work in preference to general introductory material, literature review etc. All submissions will be reviewed by researchers working in a related area. Please include a brief abstract, the author's electronic and physical address information, and indicate if you would like to display a poster on your work at the workshop. Electronic submissions will be accepted only if they are in pure ascii or binhexed Macintosh Word/MacWrite format. Submission deadline: March 1, 1993 Notification date: April 1, 1993 Final date for revised papers: June 1, 1993 We expect that revised versions of the best papers from the workshop will be considered for inclusion in an appropriate journal or published collection. Submissions and questions regarding the workshop should be directed to: Mark Klein Boeing Computer Services PO Box 24346, 7L-64 Seattle, WA 98124-0346 USA mklein@atc.boeing.com Voice: (206) 865-3412 Fax: (206) 865-2964 Organizing Committee -------------------- Steve Easterbrook University of Sussex Easterbrook@cogs.susx.ac.uk Mark Klein Boeing Computer Services mklein@atc.boeing.com Victor Lesser University of Massachusetts lesser@cs.umass.edu Stephen C-Y. Lu University of Illinois lu@kbesrl.me.uiuc.edu Katia P. Sycara Carnegie Mellon University katia@cs.cmu.edu -------------------- Mark Klein Boeing Computer Services PO Box 24346, 7L-64 Seattle, WA 98124-0346 Voice: (206) 865-3412 Fax: (206) 865-2964 Email: mklein@atc.boeing.com From neches@ISI.EDU Mon Dec 7 17:11:05 1992 Return-Path: Received: from quark.isi.edu by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA20411; Mon, 7 Dec 92 17:11:05 CST Received: by quark.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-9) id ; Mon, 7 Dec 1992 15:11:02 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 15:11:02 -0800 Message-Id: <199212072311.AA15250@quark.isi.edu> From: neches@ISI.EDU (via the vacation program) Subject: away from my mail Apparently-To: all-iceimt@einet.net I'm away at an ISO standards meeting in Belgium, 12/5 - 12/12/92. If it's urgent to reach me, please leave a message for me with Jeanne Beharry (Jeanne@isi.edu) or Kary Lau (Kary@isi.edu), both at 310/822-1511. I'll be calling in, and they can pass messages along to me. Otherwise, your mail regarding "CFP for IJCAI-93 Conflict Management Workshop" will be handled when I return. -- Bob Neches From speyer@mcc.com Tue Dec 8 10:49:22 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA21214; Tue, 8 Dec 92 10:49:22 CST Received: from joy.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA06065; Tue, 8 Dec 92 10:00:24 CST Received: by joy.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_921116_15:19) id AA13490; Tue, 8 Dec 92 10:00:23 CST Date: Tue, 8 Dec 92 10:00:23 CST From: speyer@mcc.com (Bruce Speyer) Message-Id: <9212081600.AA13490@joy.mcc.com> To: all-iceimt@einet.net, bsteve@mit.edu, curtin@mit.edu, ext-ei@mcc.com, library@mcc.com, wilson@mcc.com Subject: ICEIMT Proceedings Announcement I have enclosed for your convenience the ICEIMT (International Conference on Enterprise Integration Modeling Technology) Proceeding announcement and ordering information from The MIT Press. Note, for information on purchase and price outside North America please contact Maureen Curtin (Curtin@MIT.EDU) of The MIT Press. FYI, the London office address is: MIT Press Ltd. 14 Bloomsbury Square London WC1A 2LP Telephone 071 404-0712 Fax 071 404-0601 ICEIMT participants (of any capacity) are entitled to a 30% discount. All of you should have received a participants order form by now. Regardless, please mention this discount when you order if you qualify. In addition to the ICEIMT Proceedings, there is an adjunct document, "Reports of the ICEIMT Special Interest Groups" to be available as MCC technical report EID-143-92. I expect it to be out later this month. At that time, we will mail a copy to all ICEIMT participants. If you were not an ICEIMT participant and wish a copy at no charge please send a message to -- LIBRARY@MCC.COM . A backlog list is being maintained. Regards, Bruce K. Speyer MCC Enterprise Integration Program EMail: speyer@mcc.com 3500 West Balcones Center Drive Voice: 512/338-3668 Austin, TX. 78759-6509 Fax: 512/338-3897 p.s. I apologize to those of you on the all-iceimt@einet.net list for the errant vacation program messages you have been receiving. We are having technical difficulties in fixing this problem. But, we are continuing to work on it and hopefully will resolve the problem soon. ####### ICEIMT Announcement and Ordering Information Follows ######## Now available ENTERPRISE INTEGRATION MODELING Proceedings of the First International Conference edited by Charles J. Petrie, Jr. The goal of enterprise integration is the development of computer-based tools that facilitate coordination of work and information flow across organizational boundaries. These proceedings, the first on EI modeling technologies, provide a synthesis of the technical issues involved; describe the various approaches and where they overlap, complement, or conflict with each other; and identify problems and gaps in the current technologies that point to new research. Charles Petrie is Senior Member of Technical Staff at MCC in Austin, Texas. Contents: Group Reports: The Notion of a Model. The Integration Domain and the Enterprise Characterization. The Process of Modeling and Model Integration. The Model/Application Link. The Integration Domain an the Application Architecture. The Integration Domain and the Execution Environment. Characterizing the Need for Enterprise Integration. Execution Environment Framework Integration. Metrics and Models. Modelng Methology. Enterprise Metrics: Evaluation of Investments towards Integration. Following the Group Reports forty chapters take up such topics as: Computer Integrated Manufacturing. Open System Architecture Standards. The results of five workshops on EI modeling topics: Model Integration, Model/Application Namespace, Heterogeneous Execution Environments, Metrics and Methodologies, and Coordination Process Models 1992 - 570 pp. - $45.00 softcover ISBN 0-262-66080-6 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ORDER FORM Please send me ____ copies of Enterprise Integration Modeling (PETNP) $45.00 ___ Payment Enclosed ___ Purchase Order Attached Charge to my ___ Master Card ___ Visa Card# _______________________________ Exp.Date _______________ Signature _________________________________________________ _____ Total for books $2.75 Postage for 1st book _____ Please add 50c postage for each additional book _____ Canadian customers Add 7% GST _____ TOTAL due MIT Press Send To: Name ______________________________________________________ Address ___________________________________________________ City ________________________ State ________ Zip __________ Daytime Phone ________________ Fax ________________________ Make checks payable and send order to: The MIT Press * 55 Hayward Street * Cambridge, MA 02142 For fastest service call (617) 625-8569 or toll-free 1-800-356-0343 For information on purchase and price outside North America contact: Maureen Curtin International Department The MIT Press 55 Hayward Street Cambridge, MA 02142-1399 U.S.A. Curtin@MIT.EDU. We are unable to accept orders via e-mail The MIT Guarantee: If for any reason you are not completely satisfied, return your book(s) within ten days of receipt for a full refund or credit. From petrie@mcc.com Fri Dec 11 17:30:08 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA01322; Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:30:08 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA16153; Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:09:14 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_921116_15:19) id AA03285; Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:09:12 CST Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:09:11 CST From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net, ext-ei@mcc.com Cc: rich@mcc.com, huhns@mcc.com, ext-einet%sunscreen.mcc.com@mcc.com Subject: EI Papers by Email Message-Id: You can now get papers from an Enterprise Integration archive electronically, even if you don't have Internet FTP facilities. ------------getting started------------------------------------------ To try this out, send the message: "get iceimt-papers title.index" to "iceimt@einet.net" (The subject field doesn't matter.) You will receive, by email, a list of the available papers by their title and partial index name. ------------next level of detail------------------------------------- The index name is partial because it will require an extension: either ".abstract" or ".ps". The former denotes a plain text abstract and the latter a PostScript file. For example, the list of papers will include: "prime. The Redux' Server" If you send a message to "iceimt@einet.net" that says: "get iceimt-papers prime.abstract", you will receieve a plain text abstract of this paper in an email message. If you send a message to "iceimt@einet.net" that says: "get iceimt-papers prime.ps", you will receieve a PostScript file of this paper in email messages. ------------et cet.--------------------------------------------------- POSTSCRIPT WARNINGS: 1) PostScript is not really standard yet - there is no guarantee that the postscript files you get will print on your printer. Mac PostScript and that of other systems are generally incompatible. 2) Most PostScript files are too long for a single email message: the listserver will mail them to you in parts - you must reassemble them. 3) PostScript files are not available for every title in the list - an abstract is. If you want to see for which papers PostScript file are available, and how long they are, send the message: "index iceimt-papers" The papers in this archive were more or less randomly chosen. Let me know if you want to add one. And you can "get" the "title.index" every so often to see if there's anything new. If you want to join the regular mailing list, send a message such as: "subscribe all-iceimt Count Dracula", substituting an identity of your choosing (your real name is fine). Send it to "iceimt@einet.net". I cannot add you to this list. Charles From petrie@mcc.com Mon Dec 14 16:37:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA04993; Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:37:56 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA09584; Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:07:57 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_921116_15:19) id AA04195; Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:07:55 CST Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:07:53 CST From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Cc: ext-ei@mcc.com, huhns%sunscreen.mcc.com@mcc.com Subject: System Problems Fixed Message-Id: There was system error with the ICEIMT mail server this afternoon. If you received an error message in response to a request for service, such as "getting" a archived paper, please try again. The problem has been fixed. We apologize for the inconvenience. Charles From NSRIDHARAN@FAOIS.intel.com Tue Dec 15 10:51:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from hermes.intel.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA05762; Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:51:32 CST Received: from FAOIS.intel.com by hermes.intel.com (5.65/10.0i); Tue, 15 Dec 92 08:51:17 -0800 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 08:51:28 PST From: Life is not merely syntax Message-Id: <9212151651.utk5877@FAOIS.intel.com> X-To: HERMES::"all-iceimt@einet.net" Subject: AAAI Workshop on Modeling in the Large To: all-iceimt@einet.net AAAI-93 Workshop on Modeling in the Large July 11-12, 1993 Call for Participation This workshop will seek to bring together three diverse groups of people with the explicit goal of developing shared methodologies for building and using large expressive models. 1. There are practitioners in industry who are attempting to build models of large, complex and evolving systems. Traditional industry practice emphasizes disciplined approaches, formal development methodologies, and stepwise validation in the development process. This practice is often realized by the user of "simpler" model representations such as, E-R, IDEF, Data Flow or OO. 2. There are AI practitioners who define and use rich representational frameworks. Since the work pushes the state-of-the-art, AI models are small and focused on particular aspects of what needs to be modeled. Recently, however, some attempts have been made to build models in the large using richer representations. 3. Those with experience in knowledge engineering methods tend to focus on methodologies of acquiring and validating knowledge. Such methods tend to be task-specific and domain-focused. Here too, the issue of scaling up to large, complex and evolving models begun to emerge. This workshop follows closely two successful workshops: 1991 AAAI Workshop on AI in Enterprise Integration and the First Annual Conference on EI Modeling Technology (ICEIMT). The proposed workshop will attempt to focus on blending the practical experience base of enterprise modelers with richer methods of knowledge representation and knowledge acquisition for a fertile interchange of information. Models in the large typically tend to be o Enterprise Model- i.e. how an enterprise is organized, how it functions, including material flow, information flow, financial flow, decision making and goal setting etc.. An Enterprise Model could be that of an "as-is" enterprise or a "to-be" one. The term "enterprise" in this context applies to an organization that conducts business by providing products or services; hence it could be a company, university, department, division, partnership or whatever. o Models for supporting concurrent design and engineering. o Design knowledge capture in large projects (e.g. the NASA Space Station program.) Models that have been attempted vary in richness from data models, information flow models to full semantic or logic models. The richness of models determines the multitude of uses to which a model can be put. Hence the development of semantically rich models that permit reasoning over the model structure and contents are of great interest and importance now. AI, knowledge representation and knowledge engineering methods have much to contribute to this effort. Topics considered include: ENTERPRISE MODELING Formalism easy to learn, teach and use Methods for dealing with scale up Dealing with consensus reality Dealing with how organization changes while modeling is in progress Learning and adaptation in organizations Open system hypothesis Capturing Mission, Strategies, Goals and Plans Reasoning about Policies and Procedures Performance indicators at unit and aggregate levels Product & Process integration Concurrent Design and Engineering Business Process Re-engineering Business process simulation Justification of the expense and effort of modeling to executive management MODEL REPRESENTATION Frame, logic-based, and Description logics Semantics of key constructs like part/wholes, flows and teleology Actor systems DAI techniques including negotiation Reasoning Methods: formal and heuristic Three Schema view -Use of separate representation for communication with content experts, discussion among the modelers, and for computer representation Relation to Object Oriented Models, Semantic Data Models etc. KNOWLEDGE ENGINEERING METHODOLOGIES Knowledge Engineering -Sources of models: interviews, manuals, observations -Modeling "consensus reality" -Model integration and validation -Model consistency checking -How to tailor the "purpose" of modeling into the "methods" Information Engineering Methodology -Expansion of this to technical domains -OO extensions to IE Relation to OOA/OOD/OBA/SADT etc. Significance: In the corporate computing circles the topic of Enterprise Integration and Enterprise Modeling are of great interest and multiple million dollar efforts are beginning. However, the formalisms chosen for many of the modeling methods utilize simple data flow graphs and hierarchical system views of the world. Knowledge representation and Knowledge engineering techniques of the past 25 years have much to contribute to these efforts. Yet, no discipline and methodology appears to be emerging from the AI efforts. It appears timely to capitalize on a wonderful opportunity to target AI techniques in the service of Enterprise Modeling. Format: The workshop is planned for a day and a half with presentations of papers and invited talks, open discussions and 2 panels. Several "joint" presentations will be given in intersection areas. About 40 people are expected to be invited. All participants will be selected based on expected contributions to the cross-fertilization among several topics, rather than strength or experience in one topic. Submission requirements: Interested participants should send in a position paper of 4 to 5 pages by electronic mail (preferred) or hardcopy. This should cover thoughts on important and interesting areas of concern for "Modeling in the Large" with particular emphasis on disciplined methodologies. A brief statement of relevant background or experience of the author should be included. Papers should be received by the workshop chair by March 12 1993. Notification of acceptance will by on April 2. Camera-ready copies are required by April 30. Please send your submissions to N.S. Sridharan at the address below. N.S. Sridharan ("Sri") Intel Corporation, MS-CH2-23 5000 W. Chandler Boulevard Chandler, AZ 85226 (602) 554 3324 (602) 554 7116 fax NSridharan@faois.intel.com Organizing Committee: Robert Filman Intellicorp H. Firdman ("Eric") Pacific Bell Neil Iscoe EDS Research V. Jagannathan ("Juggy") CERC, West Virginia University Jim Schmolze Tufts University J. Tenenbaum ("Marty") Enterprise Integration Technologies Gerry Williams Andersen Consulting From cavalli@mcc.com Fri Dec 18 13:27:52 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA10925; Fri, 18 Dec 92 13:27:52 CST Received: from topaz.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA00679; Fri, 18 Dec 92 13:27:51 CST Received: by topaz.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA08002; Fri, 18 Dec 92 13:27:51 CST Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 13:27:51 CST From: cavalli@mcc.com (Sandy Cavalli) Message-Id: <9212181927.AA08002@topaz.mcc.com> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Listserver For those of you using the EINet ICEIMT listserver, we are moving the entire listserver system to another host. Although we expect that the transition will be transparent to you, you might consider not making listserver requests until about 3:00pm CST. We will send notification when we are sure the new system is stable. Sandy Cavalli From bat@aiai.edinburgh.ac.uk Fri Dec 18 13:34:27 1992 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA11158; Fri, 18 Dec 92 13:34:27 CST Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.aiai; Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:34:01 +0000 From: Austin Tate Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 19:34:54 GMT Message-Id: <7354.9212181934@aiai.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Listserver Apparently-To: all-iceimt@net.einet I am away at the moment; I will reply to your message when I return. If the matter needs urgent attention, you may wish to contact my secretary on +44 31 650 2732. Austin Tate From gasser@morue.usc.edu Fri Dec 18 20:30:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from einet.net by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA03360; Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:30:18 GMT Received: from usc.edu by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA11626; Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:30:15 CST Received: from morue.usc.edu by usc.edu (5.64+/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+2.7) id AA06606; Fri, 18 Dec 92 12:30:11 PST Received: by morue.usc.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1+ucs-3.0) id AA14559; Fri, 18 Dec 92 12:30:11 PST Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 12:30:11 PST From: gasser@morue.usc.edu (Les Gasser) Message-Id: <9212182030.AA14559@morue.usc.edu> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: CFP of potential interest Reply-To: gasser@morue.usc.edu Here is a CFP that came to me via Jan Goossenaerts, and which may be of interest to ICEIMT subscribers -- Les ---------------------------------------------------------------- DIISM '93 International Workshop THE DESIGN OF INFORMATION INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEMS FOR MANUFACTURING November 8-10, 1993 Sanjoo Kaikan, The University of Tokyo TOKYO, JAPAN SPONSORS (Some under negotiation) Japan Society of Precision Engineering International Federation of Information Processing WG 5.3 (joint sponsor) Information Processing Society of Japan (co-sponsor) Japan Society of Mechanical Engineering (co-sponsor) Japan Industrial Management Association (co-sponsor) PROGRAM COMMITTEE General Chair: H. Yoshikawa (U. of Tokyo, Japan) Co-chairs: S. Narita (Waseda U., Japan) H. Van Brussel (K.U.Leuven,Belgium) Members: R. Akella (CMU, USA) E. Arai (Tokyo Metr. U., Japan) J. Bubenko, jr. (Stockholm U., Sweden) M. Cutkosky (Stanford U., USA) A. Di Leva (U. of Torino, Italy) E. Dubois (U. of Namur, Belgium) J. Goossenaerts (U. of Tokyo, Japan) U. Graefe (NRC, Canada) Z. Han (Tsinghua U., P.R. of China) G. Harhalakis (U. of Maryland, USA) C. N. Ho (NTU, Singapore) I. Inoue (Kyoto Sangyo U., Japan) F. Kimura (U. of Tokyo, Japan) A. Kusiak (U. of Iowa, USA) A. Markus (CAI, Hungary) A. Matsumoto (Toyo U., Japan) Y. Matsushita (Keio U., Japan) K. Mertins (IPK, Germany) T. Mizuno (Mitsubishi El., Japan) L. Nemes (CSIRO, Australia) G. Olling (Chrysler, USA) L.M. Patnaik (IIS Bangalore, India) A.-W. Scheer (U. Saarlandes, Germany) N. Shiratori (Tohoku U., Japan) O.I. Semenkov (MNIPI, Belarus) T. Simmons (Brit. Aerospace, UK) M. Takizawa (Tokyo Denki U.,Japan) T. Tomiyama (U. of Tokyo, Japan) S. Umeda (Musashi U., Japan) F. Vernadat (INRIA-Lorraine, France) M. Wozny (Rensselaer, USA) PROBLEM AREA The possible benefits, the external characteristics, and the broad-range requirements of information infrastructure systems for future (intelligent) manufacturing systems are widely known. These infrastructure systems should provide low cost and flexible solutions for the information and communication needs of devices and people who collaborate in engineering and manufacturing processes. They should support concurrent engineering, design, planning, control, diagnosing and maintenance along a value-adding, wealth-creating chain of manufacturing facilities. Today many valuable technologies such as computers, communication networks, manufacturing devices and design tools exist, but the software-based amalgamation of these technologies requires exorbitant investments, inhibiting - at present - the creation of chains of automated factories which can flexibly and with low costs respond to changing demand on worldwide markets. A reason for our failure to build intelligent manufacturing systems today is the lack of understanding and agreement about techniques and methods for: (1) coordinating and systematizing the broad-range information processing requirements; and (2) integrating these requirements into a deeply structured and comprehensive conceptual model. This hampers: (3) the development of an information infrastructure amalgamating the conceptual model and computer/communication technologies; and (4) the development of an intelligent manufacturing system amalgamating the information infrastructure with advanced machine tools and skillful people. GOALS OF THE WORKSHOP The major goal of the workshop is to deepen understanding and agreement about the methods and techniques needed for developing an information infrastructure system for manufacturing systems. Some specific objectives are: (1) To bring together and compare a number of techniques and methods for factory/enterprise modeling that help to grasp the wide scope and to understand the deep structure of information infrastructure systems for manufacturing; (2) To illustrate the methods and techniques by means of non-trivial examples exhibiting a wide scope and deep structure; (3) To identify a number of testbeds for which information infrastructure systems can be developed; (4) To initiate the public domain development of information infrastructure systems for these testbeds; (5) To identify and evaluate existing key-technologies for realizing information infrastructure systems. OUTLINE OF THE WORKSHOP Four types of contributions are invited: (1) Tutorial sessions (1-1.5 hours) explaining methods for coordinating and systematizing information infrastructure requirements for manufacturing systems (examples should be used to illustrate the method at all the relevant levels in the analysis/design). (2) Case-studies (20-40 minutes) presenting operational systems or test-beds in which a number of functions expected from information infrastructure systems are implemented, or can be implemented. (3) Key-technologies: surveys, standards, evaluations, possibilities for integration (20-40 minutes). (4) Other relevant contributions. SUBMISSION OF PAPERS The number of participants will be limited to 90. Researchers and professionals from universities and industries are invited to submit contributions. Contributions must be received by June 1, 1993, and should contain different items depending on their type (see Outline of the Workshop): (1) A tutorial contribution should contain: a detailed table of contents; a description of the case-studies used; and an illustrated outline of the design method. (2) A case-study contribution should contain an overview of the system or test-bed describing its architecture, and list the manufacturing devices, functions, technologies (network, database, user-interface, hardware, software) and/or the roles of the human users. All submissions should be complete papers. Those typed (3-4) can be up to 15 double spaced pages long. A separate page should contain: (1) address and email-address/fax-number of the authors; (2) title and abstract of the contribution; (3) the resources required for its presentation (time slot on the workshop; number of pages; overhead projector, slide-projector, video...). Four copies of the contribution must be sent before June 1, 1993. With the notification of acceptance, the author(s) will receive referee reports, and information about the time-slot allocated to their contribution. A camera ready copy for inclusion in the pre-proceedings should be received by October 4, 1993. After the workshop and an additional revision - in order to make the papers reflect the points raised during the workshop discussions - the proceedings will be published as a book. SCHEDULE June 1, 1993: submission of contributions August 16, 1993: notification of acceptance October 4, 1993: camera ready copy November 8-10, 1993: workshop ORGANIZING COMMITTEE Chair: H. Yoshikawa (U. of Tokyo, Japan) Contact: J. Goossenaerts (U. of Tokyo, Japan) Members: K. Ando (Shibaura I. of Tech.,Japan) R. Sano (Matsushita, Japan) M. Takizawa (Tokyo Denki U., Japan) E. Arai (Tokyo Metr. U., Japan) Y. Matsumoto (Hitachi Ltd., Japan) T. Mizuno (Mitsubishi El., Japan) T. Taura (U. of Tokyo, Japan) S. Umeda (Musashi U., Japan) ============================================================================== REPLY CARD return to: DIISM 93 C/O Yoshikawa laboratory The University of Tokyo Dept. of Precision Machinery Engineering 7-3-1 Hongo, Bunkyo-ku Tokyo 113, JAPAN email: jago@zzz.pe.u-tokyo.ac.jp telefax: +81-3-3812-8849 telephone: +81-3-3812-2111 ext. 6481 Please complete and return this form: ============================================================================== name: institution: address: postcode: city: country: telephone: telefax: e-mail: Please check: ============================================================================== O I would like to receive further information and registration forms. Number of copies: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ O I would like to submit a contribution. Tentative title: Co-authors: Kind of contribution: O Tutorial O Case-study O Key-technologies O Others ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ O I would like to receive an order form for the workshop proceedings. ============================================================================== From bat@aiai.edinburgh.ac.uk Fri Dec 18 20:37:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA03573; Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:37:18 GMT Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.aiai; Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:36:56 +0000 From: Austin Tate Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:37:51 GMT Message-Id: <8779.9212182037@aiai.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: CFP of potential interest Apparently-To: all-iceimt@net.einet.ftp I am away at the moment; I will reply to your message when I return. If the matter needs urgent attention, you may wish to contact my secretary on +44 31 650 2732. Austin Tate From cavalli@mcc.com Fri Dec 18 20:45:45 1992 Return-Path: Received: from einet.net by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA03785; Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:45:45 GMT Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA12006; Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:45:44 CST Received: from topaz.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA01482; Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:45:43 CST Received: by topaz.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_920825_17:05) id AA08223; Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:45:43 CST Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:45:43 CST From: cavalli@mcc.com (Sandy Cavalli) Message-Id: <9212182045.AA08223@topaz.mcc.com> To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: ICEIMT Listserver Folks, The new EINet ICEIMT listserver is up and seems to be stable. We have checked every feature that we are aware of and they all are working. You will notice that the host is now ftp.einet.net instead of einet.net. You can still mail your requests to einet.net and they will be processed properly. Let us know if you have problems. Regarding the automatic mail traffic - some of the vacation mailers that are in use were written many years ago before mail header information was standardized. Thus, they are looking at header information which, while still valid, should no longer be used. We are trying to find a way to create a return header that will convince these mailers not to auto-reply. We hope to have a solution to this problem soon. In the meantime, we appreciate your patience. Sandy Cavalli EINet From petrie@mcc.com Fri Dec 18 22:37:15 1992 Return-Path: Received: from einet.net by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA04665; Fri, 18 Dec 92 22:37:15 GMT Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA12348; Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:37:13 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA02720; Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:37:12 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_921116_15:19) id AA02302; Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:37:11 CST Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:37:11 CST From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: New Titles in ICEIMT-PAPERS This Week Message-Id: INDEX TITLE allen. GEM: Global Event Management in CAD Frameworks brevard. CFI Design Representation Information Modeling Experiences CERR-2. Concurrent Engineering Research In Review - Issue 2 CERR-3. Concurrent Engineering Research In Review - Issue 3 CERR-4. Concurrent Engineering Research In Review - Issue 4 klein-DCSS. Supporting Conflict Management in Cooperative Design Teams klein-DRCS. DRCS: An Integrated System for Capture of Designs and their Rationale tech-issues-intro. Techinical Issues of Enterprise Integration - Part 1 tech-issues-report. Techinical Issues of Enterprise Integration - Part 2 From petrie@mcc.com Mon Dec 21 16:17:51 1992 Return-Path: Received: from einet.net by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA05506; Mon, 21 Dec 92 16:17:51 GMT Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA14106; Mon, 21 Dec 92 10:17:50 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA16351; Mon, 21 Dec 92 09:48:38 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_921116_15:19) id AA03232; Mon, 21 Dec 92 09:48:38 CST Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 9:48:36 CST From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Cc: ext-ei@mcc.com Subject: Instructions Repeat Message-Id: For those of you who have requested a repeat of the instructions for accessing the enterprise integration papers by email, or who missed the previous messages: you can get general information by sending any message to "einet-info@einet.net". The automatic reply will tell you how you can receive other automatic email messages anytime you want them, including instructions for email access to the EI archive, "iceimt-papers". Happy Holidays, Charles From gasser@morue.usc.edu Tue Dec 29 01:24:08 1992 Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA08247; Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:24:08 GMT Received: from morue.usc.edu by usc.edu (5.64+/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+2.7) id AA04245; Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:24:06 PST Received: by morue.usc.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1+ucs-3.0) id AA26911; Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:24:02 PST Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:24:02 PST From: gasser@morue.usc.edu (Les Gasser) Message-Id: <9212290124.AA26911@morue.usc.edu> To: all-iceimt@ftp.einet.net Subject: Another conference of interest Reply-To: gasser@morue.usc.edu There is now a CFP available for the IFIP-TC5/SME conference "Towards World Class Manufacturing '93" to be held 9/12-15/93 in Phoenix, AZ, USA. All I have is hard copy, so here's basic info from the CFP: "This conference will address vehicles for making progress towards a common understanding of how information needs to be modeled, communicated, stored, and accessed across all aspects of an enterprise, starting with the definition of customer requirements and proceeding through [all life cycle aspects through disposal and recycle]." Dates: papers due 2/17/93 For additional info: Mary N. Johnson WG5.2 Secretary Rensselaer Design Research Center 110 8th St Troy, NY 12180-3590 +518.276.6754 (v) +518.276.2702 (f) mjohnson@rdrc.rpi.edu (email) -- Les Computational Organization Design Lab Institute of Safety and Systems Management USC 927 West 35th Place Los Angeles, CA 90089-0021 USA Voice: 213.740.4046 Fax: 213.740.8771 Alternate Fax: 213.740.5943 Internet: gasser@usc.edu From neches@ISI.EDU Tue Dec 29 01:27:37 1992 Return-Path: Received: from quark.isi.edu by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA08389; Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:27:37 GMT Received: by quark.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-9) id ; Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:27:35 -0800 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:27:35 -0800 Message-Id: <199212290127.AA18871@quark.isi.edu> From: neches@ISI.EDU (via the vacation program) Subject: away from my mail Apparently-To: all-iceimt@ftp.einet.net I'm on vacation 12/21/92 - 1/1/93, and at the International Workshop on Intelligent User Interfaces in Florida, 1/4/93 - 1/10/93. While on vacation, I will be happily, gloriously unreachable. While in Florida, I can be reached at the Buena Vista Palace Hotel in Orlando. You can also leave a message via Jeanne Beharry (Jeanne@isi.edu) or Kary Lau (Kary@isi.edu), both at 310/822-1511. I'll be calling in, and they can pass messages along to me. I may be checking my mail intermittently. Otherwise, your mail regarding "Another conference of interest" will be handled when I return. The next time I'll be in the office will be 1/11/93. -- Bob Neches From van@hela.iti.org Tue Dec 29 01:27:46 1992 Return-Path: Received: from iti.org (hela.iti.org) by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA08400; Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:27:46 GMT Received: by iti.org (5.65b/IDA-1.2.8) id AA21607; Mon, 28 Dec 92 20:30:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 20:30:06 -0500 From: "Van D. Parunak" Message-Id: <9212290130.AA21607@iti.org> Precedence: bulk Apparently-To: all-iceimt@ftp.einet.net Dear correspondent, I'm out of the office until Monday 4 Jan, and don't expect to read Email before then. If you absolutely need to talk with me before then, call me at home, 313-996-1384. Have a nice holiday and a wonderful new year! Van -------- Dr. H. Van Dyke Parunak internet: van@iti.org Scientific Fellow voice: (313) 769-4049 Industrial Technology Institute fax: (313) 769-4064 PO Box 1485, Ann Arbor, MI 48106 From speyer@mcc.com Tue Dec 29 01:28:31 1992 Return-Path: Received: from turtle.mcc.com by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA08429; Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:28:31 GMT Received: from joy.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA20281; Mon, 28 Dec 92 19:28:30 CST Received: by joy.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_921116_15:19) id AA06875; Mon, 28 Dec 92 19:28:29 CST Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 19:28:29 CST Message-Id: <9212290128.AA06875@joy.mcc.com> From: speyer@mcc.com (via the vacation program) Subject: away from my mail Apparently-To: all-iceimt@ftp.einet.net I will not be reading my mail until Monday, January 4th. Your mail regarding "Another conference of interest" will be read when I return. From bat@aiai.edinburgh.ac.uk Tue Dec 29 01:30:03 1992 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA08503; Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:30:03 GMT Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.aiai; Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:29:53 +0000 From: Austin Tate Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:31:03 GMT Message-Id: <29044.9212290131@aiai.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Another conference of interest Apparently-To: all-iceimt@net.einet.ftp I am away at the moment; I will reply to your message when I return. If the matter needs urgent attention, you may wish to contact my secretary on +44 31 650 2732. Austin Tate From petrie@mcc.com Wed Dec 30 15:55:27 1992 Return-Path: Received: from einet.net by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA09665; Wed, 30 Dec 92 15:55:27 GMT Received: from turtle.mcc.com by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA20591; Wed, 30 Dec 92 09:55:26 CST Received: from sunscreen.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA04147; Wed, 30 Dec 92 09:55:19 CST Received: by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_921116_15:19) id AA06713; Wed, 30 Dec 92 09:55:18 CST Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 9:55:18 CST From: Charles Petrie To: all-iceimt@einet.net Subject: Reqs. Eng. & Methodolgies Email List Precedence: bulk Message-Id: Please reply to Carl Singer if you are interested: --------------- Received: from turtle.mcc.com by sunscreen.mcc.com (4.1/isd-other_921116_15:19) id AA06686; Wed, 30 Dec 92 09:16:12 CST Received: from tbird.cc.bellcore.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA03648; Wed, 30 Dec 92 09:16:11 CST Received: from dasher.UUCP by tbird.cc.bellcore.com id AA14070 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:01:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199212301501.AA14070@tbird.cc.bellcore.com> From: singer@dasher.cc.bellcore.com (singer,carl a) To: (~nlist) X-To: ~nlist Date: 30 Dec 1992 9:49 EST Subject: Requirements Engineering Hello I am sending to all of you from the SDDSE ("Standard for a Description of Data for Software Engineering") distribution list and from the P1175 Standard Reference Model for Computing System Tool Interconnections distribution list to "build" a list of people who are interested in Requirements Engineering & Methodologies. If you are interested, please reply via email & I will compile and distribute an appropriate list. Thanks Carl Singer ============================== Carl A. Singer, PhD BELLCORE Software Quality Technology 6 Corporate Place PYA-1E211 Piscataway, NJ 08854 Phone (908) 699-8951 FAX (908) 336-2244 EMAIL singer@cc.bellcore.com ============================== From bat@aiai.edinburgh.ac.uk Wed Dec 30 16:04:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from einet.net by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA09883; Wed, 30 Dec 92 16:04:54 GMT Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA20784; Wed, 30 Dec 92 10:04:52 CST Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.aiai; Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:04:20 +0000 From: Austin Tate Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 16:05:34 GMT Message-Id: <21054.9212301605@aiai.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Reqs. Eng. & Methodolgies Email List Apparently-To: all-iceimt%net.einet.ftp@net.einet I am away at the moment; I will reply to your message when I return. If the matter needs urgent attention, you may wish to contact my secretary on +44 31 650 2732. Austin Tate From fullton@concert.net Thu Dec 31 15:42:27 1992 Return-Path: Received: from einet.net by ftp.einet.net (4.1/MCC_EINET_FTP_server_0.1) id AA10413; Thu, 31 Dec 92 15:42:27 GMT Received: from jazz.concert.net by einet.net (4.1/EINet_0.01) id AA21726; Thu, 31 Dec 92 09:42:26 CST Received: from [128.109.57.2] (ghb.concert.net) by jazz.concert.net (5.59/tas-concert/8-12-92) id AA14931; Thu, 31 Dec 92 10:42:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 10:42:13 -0500 Message-Id: <9212311542.AA14931@jazz.concert.net> To: all-iceimt@einet.net From: fullton@concert.net (Jim Fullton) X-Sender: fullton@jazz.concert.net Subject: Project Announcement It has been suggested that I post the following announcement to this list. It's already been posted to several lists and newsgroups, so please accept my apologies if you have already seen it. The list mentioned in the announcement has already been created. It's called zip@kudzu.concert.net. You can subscribe by sending a SUBSCRIBE command to zip-request@kudzu.concert.net. Jim As some of you may know, the U.S. National Science Foundation has funded the creation of the Clearinghouse for Networked Information Discovery and Retrieval. One of the responsibilities of CNIDR is to promote the use and development of tools for discovering and using networked information. We have been specifically charged with the task of providing an evolutionary path for the public-domain version of WAIS, the Wide Area Information Server. Therefore, we have been paying close attention to the remarks and "wish lists" provided by the network community, and are well into a project to try to fulfill those wishes. We are in the early beta test stages of a new generation of WAIS-like systems that build on the heritage of WAIS as released by Thinking Machines, but with quite a bit of extensibility and new features. Specifically, and with the help of many others, we're creating a Z39.50-92 (soon to be 93) server with full backwards compatibility with current WAIS clients and indexes, features such as boolean search, formatted searching on fielded text information, thesaurus based synonym substitution, stemming, and a search engine integration toolkit. While the server maintains compatibility with current WAIS clients, it will also allow searches and retrievals from any Z39.50 client capable of recognizing the BIB-1 or INFO-1 attribute sets. Clients developed for this system will also be able to interact with library automation systems within the constraints of the attribute sets. We also hope to provide a tool to make various Z39.50 server maintenance tasks easier. We hope to support the following Z39.50 features: 1) BIB-1 and dynamic INFO-1 ssearches 2) ES-1 element sets, which allow even more retrieval flexibility than the current WAIS server. 3) Access and resource control - essentially, this will allow for secure servers and servers that can accept billing information from the user. 4) EXPLAIN. Smart clients can use the EXPLAIN facility in conjunction with their preferred attribute set to provide customized search options for the user. Basic search engine features (configurable): Synonym lookup Stemming Formatted field searches Boolean search logic (to be added before release) We have not yet begun to create the search engine toolkit as we think we need more user input, and the clients are rudimentary at best. We do hope to have the server running and ready for beta-test by February, although alpha code will be available much sooner. Clients wil take somewhat longer as user interface development can be quite time consuming. The entire system will, of course, be freely available for use and modification by the network community. On the client side, work is progressing on clients for the Macintosh and Unix systems, with a PC client in the wings. So, when will this wonderful thing be ready? We actually have a server running that answers both WAIS and Z39.50-1992 queries on the same port, but returns results in a non-standard transfer syntax. We are in the process of changing this to support INFO-1 generic data records, and hope to have that completed soon. We have had many comments from interested folks asking us to make these plans known to the rest of the network community, and at the risk of announcing vaporware, are doing so. How can you help? We have already had quite a bit from many people, most notably John Kunze at the University of California at Berkeley and Clifford Lynch at UCOP. John created most of the server code and designed the INFO-1 attribute set as well as the ES-1 element set structures. I have made the server modifications to support free-text searching and WAIS compatibility, as well as making the necessary changes to the WAIS search engine. Members of Joan Gargano's staff at the University of California at Davis are now working on X Windows clients. We are looking for folks willing to work on clients and run beta-test servers with their current WAIS information bases. Once our transfer syntax code is firmed up, trial servers will be made available for this purpose. As technical manager for the Clearinghouse (as of December 1), I will help coordinate development tasks and incorporate any of your contributions into releases (with attribution, of course). We also have staff who will provide documentation and support for final releases. Your comments and suggestions are welcome, and we look forward to hearing from you. ------ Jim Fullton Clearinghouse for Networked Information Discovery and Retrieval Phone: (919)-248-9247 E-Mail: fullton@concert.net